Heaven Leigh: I am here!

Al Kikuras: At last we meet.

H: Yes, finally!

A: How long do you have? Sorry for all the delays, by the way.

H: As long as you need. Hey, no problem. It happens.

A: Let's just get started, okay?

H: Okay! I'm ready as I'll ever be!!!

A: How did you first get involved in porn?

H: My husband and I watched a lot of videos when we first got married and I wanted to try out threesomes and things, so we did just like in the movies. Then I wanted to give it a try, so I sent a home movie to Rodney Moore. A month later I flew out and did my first movie with him.

A: Rodney Moore is one of our faves... he appears to be a real scumbag on camera. Is that how he is off or is it just show? We mean scumbag in a good way!

H: It's just show. He's actually a very nice guy! Well, then... I know a lot of scumbags! Of course, I mean that in the nicest way possible! He has his own way of doing things which fans like. I've always heard good things about my Rodney Moore movies.

A: Which movies did you do with him? We'd like to check them out.

H: Creme de la Face 21, 22, and 25 and Hospital Whores. I also did Working Girls 2 with him.

Piston: Which scene were you in in Working Girls 2? We have that, but I just saw bits and pieces while I was copying it for one of our reviewers.

Know that Bryan Adams song "Heaven?" Wow, he really sucks!!

H: I did a scene with a girl named Casey and with Rodney. Also, a 3-way. It was my very first anal. I did toys anal and also anal with Rodney... it was a fun scene!

Piston: I'll be sure to go back and watch intently...

A: How has your marriage changed since you got involved in pornography?

H: My marriage hasn't really changed much we appreciate each other more now. We see a lot of people in this business break up over very stupid shit! We are happy that we can communicate and tell each other what's on our minds other than just scream and fight like we see so often. By the way, you'll have to excuse me if I'm a little out of it... I have a cold!

A: No problem at all. I hope you feel better!

H: Thank you, I appreciate that! I keep having to blow my nose kind of gets in the way... like you really wanted to hear that!

A: I take it Blake has a voyeuristic side... are there ever any jealous moments because of what you do?

H: Not really. We have a rule and it goes like this: if I do something on camera it has to be because I do it off camera with him first! He is voyeuristic, but so am I, so it goes hand in hand. We are very mischievious together and can get very kinky in the way we both think. I think that goes with trying to out do each other. It's a game and it keeps things interesting... very interesting!!

A: So I take it you and Blake are not monogomous in your off-camera life?

H: No, not exactly! But since I've been in porn we only do girls off camera, not men because of the risk of catching something and passing it on to others. I'm more responsible than that! But girls are lots of fun! If I had my choice, I'd only do women on camera but the money is not there to do that. Before porn I did lots of 3-ways with guys... always protected, though we were even safe back then too!

A: Has Blake ever appeared in an adult movie?

H: Yes, he was in Puritan 22 with me. I did a double penetration with him and Mark Vega. He was also in Cum Back Pussy #13 and the gang bang movie, so he's been in a few with me.

A: Was your first lesbian experience on screen?

H: No it was not! I experimented with girls in my teens, and then even more so when I was a stripper in Ft. Wayne, Indiana at Showgirls 2.

A: How old were you when you lost your virginity to both a man and a woman?

HeavenPorn: With a man I was 14. With a woman I think I was 16 or so! Pretty young! I was always very curious and wanted to try things!

A: What were the circumstances of each? Who were they? Not their names, but how did you know them?

H: When I was 14 it was a boyfriend I had a crush on for a long time. We dated then split up. He was with another girl at the time and we started fooling around. It appealed to me that he was with her and I was losing my virginity to him. We fooled around a lot after that and after they broke up the thrill was gone. I moved on to another guy! The girl was a friend that spent the night at my house and we snuck my mom's wine coolers and got drunk and thought it would be cool to see what it was like to be with a girl. We both liked it. She just lied to herself and still is. I kept on doing girls and have ever since.

A: Is your attraction to women purely physical or emotional as well? Have you ever been "in love" with a woman?

H: It's physical. I'm attracted to women, but I have never had a relationship thats turned into love. I guess I just haven't met anyone that has made me feel that way. Most of the women I have sex with are friends. We do hang out and do things together, I'm just not in love with them. Maybe someday I will, but for now no one has stolen my heart like that except for my husband.

A: If it did happen, how do you think Blake would feel about sharing you? Would you consider a three-way marriage like Nina Hartley is currently in?

H: We have never talked about it, because its never been an issue. However, if it did happen it would have to be with a women who would be with me and Blake, not just me. That would just be too weird!

A: Do you make your full living from porn or do you dance as well?

H: I'm not dancing currently, but do have plans to do so in the near future. I have my website, which brings in some extra money along with porn.

A: Does Blake work outside of helping with your career?

H: No. He's going to take college courses in Graphic Design so he can be even more involved with my website and things. He helps me out a lot! If it was just me, I'd be swamped with stuff to do, so I'm grateful that he's here to help.

A: How old are both you and Blake?

H: I'm 22. I'll be 23 on April 8th. Blake is 31.

A: How and when did you first meet?

H: We met almost 3 years ago in the strip club I worked at in Ft Wayne. He was sitting with a friend of mine, an old neighbor, so I went to say hi. My shift was over for the night so he never saw me dance. I sat down and they were both very drunk and he was whispering in my ear. I never date guys from the clubs... it's a rule, but he was so interesting and so married that I had to give it a shot. Well, he and his wife were separated at the time. So, I tracked him down the next day not even knowing his last name. I'm a very good detective! We started dating and his wife would drive by my house all the time. He ended up divorcing her and 2 days later we got married!

A: So, the fact that he was married was a big turn-on?

H: No, I didn't know he was married until later, so I still wanted to date him. But, you know women, we have to win and I knew I was going to get him. He told me he was married, but they were separated and not living together or anything and he was telling the truth. I went and met his parents. She had cheated on him behind his back which ended the marriage immediately.

A: Do either of your parents know that you are doing porn?

H: My dad knows what I do. He's not happy about it, but he says I'm his only daughter. He'll love me anyway no matter what. We have a very good relationship. My mother never knew what I was doing. I never told her before she passed away last October resulting from complications of a bone marrow transplant. My mother had leukemia since I was 12 years old.

A: I am sorry to hear that! What about Blake's folks?

H: They know he told them up front before we even came to California to do porn. He says he doesn't care what they think. It's our lives, not theirs.

A: Pussycat is on the phone right now (Unchain's lovely gossip columnist). She says "hello!"

H: Say hi for me!!!

A: She's giving me a scoop... can you hang on for a minute or two while I get this down?

H: I sure can do that!!!

"Oh, I wish I was that guy's weeeeinerrr. That guy's weiner is what I would like to be!"

A: Thank you... I will be back momentarily.

(brief pause)

A: Tell us about your web site, heaven-leigh.com. What do members get to see there?

H: Live shows twice a week, new pictures all the time. I have a chat room I'm in often. There is a catalog of movies and custom videos that I do, also personal items that are available pics of other girls pics of all the live shows I do, and also production stills from certain movies I have done. We are getting ready to change the site in a couple of months. It will be different and better. We will have sports and WWF wrestling stuff on it. Pics of me in different jerseys and WWF music on it. It'll be great. I'm a huge WWF wrestling fan and of Stone Cold Steve Austin.

P: WCW is better!

H: No way! WWF rules!!!! But, nice try. WWF has better looking women on it. Take Sable for instance... and Marlena (Terry Reynolds). Can't beat tits like that!!!!

P: WCW has Ric Flair. Enough said!!

H: Ric "needs a retirement home" Flair?? hahaha! But we have Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Undertaker, and can't forget KANE!!!

P: Ric Flair is to wrestling what Randy West is to porn... the older the berry, the sweeter the juice!

A: Okay, enough wrestling stuff, you two. This could get ugly... but, while on the topic, what do you think of Randy West?

H: I think Randy is a great guy. I've worked for him 3 times now and I have more respect for him than anyone in this business. He's a straight shooter... tells it like it is. I like that honesty and just having a personality. Randy has both. He's always been nothing but nice to myself and my husband.

A: Randy is one of our favorites... definitely a great guy! He's been a real friend to the site so far, along with DJX and Shane Tyler.

H: Yeah Randy is one of a kind!

A: How many films have you done to date?

H: I'd say 75 to 80. Not all of them are on the site. When I first got into porn, I didn't think of keeping track of the movies for future reference on a website or anything, but we tried to add them up anyway and we think to date no less than 60 no more than 80.

A: Which are your favorite and least favorites and why?

H: The GangBang Girl 23 is my favorite. I liked having 10 guys with their hands all over me and their dicks out! Not knowing who was behind you or who was fucking you next. The suspense of it was a turn on! I really don't have a least favorite. I don't do a scene or a movie if I feel that I may not enjoy it or like what its about. I try to stick to that however, it doesn't always work. I probably have done a scene or a movie I could have lived without doing, but I can't think of it at present time. I have pretty much enjoyed all the movies I've been in or done and the people I've worked with.

A: What are your biggest on and off-camera turn-ons?

H: Getting my pussy eaten and always talk dirty to me!! I like role playing to, on and off camera it really turns me on to be someone else or to play someone else. I like bondage so I do bondage videos as well. I like to be tied up and spanked and forced to do things that really turns me on!

A: A big trend developing among porn stars nowadays is the in-house camera which films their lives at all times for broadcast on the web. Would you ever consider doing that or do you value your privacy too much?

H: I wouldn't mind some of it being broadcast, but I have a privacy issue. I like to let my fans into my private life to see the real me, so they know I'm a real person with feelings and a life aside from porn. I really don't think I'd like a camera up my butt all the time it would get annoying to me. So I would say ok to certain times but not all the time it would probably drive me crazy!

A: Speaking of fans, a number of fans from the RAME newsgroup submitted questions for us to ask. The first (which I am not 100% clear on): Any plans to do an amateur video with Jan B. of Indy?

H: I really don't know about that one yet!

A: Another asked if it is true you refuse to do interracial sex scenes. I have read a string on the newsgroups of you going back and forth with some posters about it. Care to state your case once and for all?

H: I was getting grief about it because people were saying I was racist which really pissed me off. I'm from Detroit. I have lots of black friends, so to be called a racist, these people have no idea who I am or anything about me. I am not attracted to black men. That's why I do not do interracial scenes, not because I'm a racist. To prove my point once and for all on this issue, I have done one interracial scene to get the point across and it was with Jake Steed. It was an okay scene but, however, it wasn't the best I could have done. I'm just not attracted to black men. No disrespect intended so for those of you on RAME that called me a racist, but you can kiss my ass! I just proved you all wrong.

A: Another RAME question: Have you worked with Max Hardcore? What is your opinion of him?

H: Yes I worked with Max and all I have to say is he's an interesting man! I signed for him at CES in the Legend booth. He was very nice to me. His scenes are very extreme, but thats why people like him so much. He's giving the fans what they want and what they want to see, so as a business man Max is very smart and down to earth. As a person he's just, well, "interesting" to say the least!

A: One last RAME question: Any plans to do a fan-based series where fans, usually fan club members, get chosen by the actress to do scenes with the gals for a series? I wonder if the guy that asked that is in the Heaven Leigh fan club??

H: It wouldn't surprise me if he was! I have thought about that but to be honest it's already being done. I've seen a video about that fans get picked. I'd like to try something different... don't know what yet, but I will certainly figure it out!!

A: I think he was hoping you'd say yes and he could be first on the list..

H: I'm sure he'd put his name in way in advance!!!

A: What kind of music do you listen to?

H: I listen to all kinds of music but I'm not into some of this new shit. I like all the 80's stuff like Warrant, Cinderella, Judas Priest... stuff like that. And I do listen to country!!! Aerosmith is one of my favorites have seen them in concert with Jackyl about a year or so ago.

A: So do you have a bit of a metalhead in you?

H: Yeah I guess you could say that because I do like Metallica and Alice Cooper and Motley Crue so yeah I like Metal and real Rock and Roll not this alternative crap they have now makes want to PUKE!!!

A: Amen to that!!!

H: You said it!!!!

A: Have you ever heard of the band Manowar?

H: Yeah Blake likes to listen to that. I think that's the name of it anyway! He listens to Danger Danger and also Dangerous Toys and stuff like that so I think thats one of the others I've seen him listening to! I'm a big fan of Night Ranger. "Sister Christian" is the song I like on it the most.

P: Are you into Johnny Cash?

H: Yeah I like Johnny Cash and Kenny Rogers and Willie Nelson. I met Willie Nelson at the Ionia free fair with my mom when I was like 12 years old. My grandfather is a silversmith, and they have their own business and they do fairs in Michigan part time. We knew the people who owned the lemonade stands there, so we got to take Willie lemonade and got to meet him. I was too young but my mom was like wow!! It was disgusting. But I thought he was cool... he was wearing red New Balance tennis shoes!!

A: What was disgusting? The lemonade? Or Willie?

H: I thought it was disgusting that my mother was drooling over Willie Nelson! He was kind of old.

A: Willie Nelson is notorious for smoking pot. I hear he is stoned CONSTANTLY, but for "medicinal purposes." Kind of leads into our next question... many porn outsiders assume that the business is overrun with drug use. Is the problem rampant in the industry right now?

H: It probably is, I'm sure, but because of that we all get stereo typed as drug users. I do not use drugs. I used to in high school. I smoked pot and stuff but I don't anymore and haven't since I met my husband and we've been together 3 years. I'm sure that people in this industry do drugs. I, however, don't hang out with too many people in porn. I seperate myself from them for that purpose. I have more important things to do than sit around and get stoned and act stupid!! I got my fill in high school and part of college. I have a life outside porn, so I try not to hang out with those whom I believe to have a drug problem or are using drugs to my knowledge.

A: Is there anyone in porn that you do hang out with? Any close friends that you prefer to work with on camera?

H: Nope, not really. I have people I like alot and enjoy working with but don't hang out with. I like Misty Rain, Alexandra Silk, Candy Hill... I do hang out with her occasionally and she is very cool! Not a drug user, down to earth and I prefer to work with her any day of the week. She's great and I like her very much! She's always been there for me and I am for her!!!

A: Do you smoke cigarettes?

H: I do only when I drink beer and I may have one occasionally here and there but not a heavy smoker by any means! A pack will last me 2 or 3 weeks.

A: Your breasts are obviously natural, which we personally think is wonderful! Have you ever considered having implants or felt any pressure to do so?

H: No, never! I like them just the way they are and if I do it they will never be the same! So, no way jose, not me!!

A: In your experience, are most female on-camera orgasms faked?

H: Well, let's see.... YEAH if I get real turned on, I don't have to fake but sometimes if you stop... you go you take a break, it's hard, but if you get into it, I can cum with no problem!!

A: I've heard it said that the pleasure some women derive from having sex on camera is primarily exhibitionistic and therefore different from the pleasure they get from having sex in their private lives. Is this your experience as well?

H: All sex is different, so yeah, it has been my experience that sex is better in my private life but at the same time it's a thrill on camera, so there two different feelings which is great because then it's not boring and the same old thing all the time!

A: Do you consider pornography to be just a job or a way of life for you?

H: That's a hard one to answer! I love sex and so the sex part is a way of life. The porn gives it an edge to be exciting and thrilling, but when I'm done with porn I will still do the same things I've always done, so that part will never change. Just the fact that it's not on camera.

A: There are individuals that are happy in pornography as a lifestyle, and, obviously, others that are not happy and porn for them is just a means to pay the bills and a step to what is hopefully a "better life." Do you fall into one of these two categories?

H: It's a lifestyle I have chosen to be in. If I didn't enjoy this, I would not be doing it. My husband had a good job and we had a good life before, so it's not just a means to pay the bills. I chose to be here, it didn't choose me!

A: How do you feel about feminist attacks on pornography? Do you feel at all betrayed by the women that attack your profession?

H: Absoloutely I do! These women should realize we chose to be here. It's our business if you don't like it, don't watch it, but don't put the rest of us down for what we like or what we choose to do with our lives. The only thing I have to say to these women is we are all whores somewhere down the line. If these women go to work every day, or if their husbands do and they stay home he feeds them clothes them and gives them a nice car to drive... what does he expect in return? A clean house, a meal on the table, and to get laid!! So they have no right to judge others!

A: TESTIFY!!!

H: Its double standard for men and women. A guy can go out and do 500 girls, he's a stud. A girl can do it and we are whores in the public's eye! So, it's a no-win situation for us! Feminists aren't attacking the men, only their own. It takes two to play!

A: Preach sister!!! You are dropping the knowledge!! (applause)

H: Just telling it like it is! It's just sex! We can either have fun and have sex or go back in time, like they want to, and keep having sex with the damn lights off!

A: A large faction of the porn opposition find their objections on basis of religion. What are your beliefs? Do you consider yourself to be a member of any one faith?

H: I'm Catholic and have been all my life. So is my husband. If we don't have a problem with what we are doing, why should anyone else tell us how to live our lives? Prostitution is the oldest known profession. Tell the feminists that! I believe in my religion, but I don't always agree with it, and that's okay. I don't have to! I still have morals... I don't do drugs, I don't lie, I don't steal. I just have sex! Big damn deal! I'm still a good person no matter what I do with my sex life! If I ran into one of these feminists on the street and had a conversation with her and she really liked me, thought I was very intelligent and so on, and then I said I did porn, then it all comes down!! I'm a bad person, however, 3 seconds ago I wasn't!

A: Any plans for "life after porn?" Do you want to have kids?

H: I would love to have children. Someday and we plan to move back to Tennessee and carry on with our lives and have a family and keep my website and dance still, but to have somewhat normal lives after that. I love kids and maybe someday I'll think about it. We would like to have a ranch someday and be away from neighbors, unlike California where your neighbors are looking in your window (laughs). That has happened to me before!

A: Did you actually catch someone peeking? What happened?

Never has the saying "I am in Heaven" been more appropriate...

H: The apartment across the street... they were looking in the window! So, we gave them a show to see if they liked it. Ha! Watch me, will ya?!?! The next night they were doing the same thing we did. It was very funny, but I wanted to embarrass them and it backfired on my ass!!

A: To get back to kids, if you do have them, will you let them know about your porn career?

H: When they are older, yes. I don't want to lie or keep things from my kids. My mother did that and it hurt our relationship for a while until the trust was returned, so I learned the hard way to be honest and up front and never be ashamed of who you are or what you do with your life. I should tell my kids they will probably end up just like me, but if they do, then I'll know I did something right. Even though I do porn, I still have ethics and values and morals and things that I belive in and that are important to me!

A: Knowing what you do about porn today, if one of your children came to you for advice because he or she was thinking about becoming a porn actor or actress, what would your advice be?

H: I would probably pass out first, then give advice! I'd say to please think of something else to do in the future. Don't make porn your life, but, if you're going to do it, I can't stop you. I can only help you. I didn't want people telling me how to live my life and I will not tell my children how to live theirs but, I will tell them to be careful and use good judgement! Also, it's not a game and if you really want to do it, then fine, but get an education so you have a career and a future. Porn doesn't last forever!

A: Any idea how many kids would you like to have?

H: Two is plenty for me! No more than that, though we already have one from my husband's previous relationship. Not marriage, just relationship. So, we are fighting to even see that child!

A: Do you want a boy and a girl? Two boys? Two girls?

H: I really don't care, but after the relationship that I had with my mother and how much I love her, I'd really like to have a daughter to share that kind of relationship with her, like I had with my mom.

A: Do you have a good bond with Blake's child? Is it a boy or a girl?

H: He has a son who is now 5 and yes, he calls me mom. His mom is a drug addict with 2 other children from an abusive boyfriend and they say we are unfit parents because I do porn. That's the problem we are having now.

A: That sucks!! I hope it turns out in your favor. Be sure to let me know...

H: I will certainly do that!

A: Were you a member of any cliques in high school?

H: Not really. At first I did. I was a cheerleader and I played softball, but then I started to hang out with girls that went out and partied and stuff. I had a few good friends all through school, but I stayed to myself a lot.

A: Okay, at long last... THE FINAL QUESTION!!! Any upcoming films or projects you would like to tell us about?

H: I have a project but I can't talk about it right now. Ask me at the end of the week... maybe then I can reveal something about it. As far as movies go, I did a movie called The Seven Deadly Sins for Vivid... don't know when it will be out, but it should be very good! Right now my biggest project is heaven-leigh.com... getting it so that my fans are getting their money's worth and are happy!

A: Well, thank you very much for taking the time for the interview. We really appreciate it!

H: Thanks for interviewing me. It was fun and I had a good time talking with you!

A: I hope your cold gets better!

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